Archive for Broken on IE8

IE8 Beta Is Hilarious

And we weren’t the ones to state this. This time it was Marah Marie after seeing how IE8 played around with her blog name.

We’ve been a little quiet latley in this blog and since we are seeing more post by other people pop up randomly around the Web, talking about frustrations with IE8 Beta, we decided to post one. Maybe we will continue to do this until the next Beta, which is due sometime this month, comes out and we get a chance to evaluate it. Hopefully, focus won’t be put on silly features, (web slices for instance), instead of making this browser truly compliant for once.

To Secure or Not Secure IE security vulnerabilities

This post comes from a mix of two articles dealing with security while browsing the Web. In simple terms, if you are using IE on any version (5 - 8) then the chances of your computer getting hacked with malware, exploits, viruses etc, are far greater than someone using a good browser like our favorite: Firefox.

The article explains us that: “The vulnerability poses a special danger since the ActiveX control is digitally signed by Microsoft, which means that people who have Internet Explorer configured to trust ActiveX controls with that designation would run it automatically if encountered on a Web page.

Some of the Web pages that have already been hacked with automated SQL injection attacks earlier this year are also hosting the Microsoft Access attack, according to Symantec’s Sean Hittel.

And yes, it is Symantec who is explaining the problem and yes, July patches are out so IE users will have to wait or disable their ActiveX control in order to be safer.

IE8 Still Fails

And this time we are not the ones to point it out. It is Microsoft who does the favor: http://www.thoughtmechanics.com/2008/07/12/ie8-fail-win/

And we go on About the IE7 Emulate Button

Simple:

  1. It doesn’t work correctly: Check here and here
  2. It is a pain in the ass to go from IE8 to IE7 when needed. “The first beta of IE8 has an “Emulate IE7″ button, allowing users to effectively revert to the old browser on pages that don’t render properly.” Steps are explained here.

IE8 Is Among Us And So Is The Meta Tag

Yesterday Microsoft posted on it’s support page a solution for the following problem: “Your Web site may not display correctly in Internet Explorer 8 Beta 1,” which has the following symptoms:

  • Misaligned Web page layout
  • Overlapping text or images
  • JavaScript functionality issues and errors

There solution is simple. First, you need to verify that this is a IE8 specific problem by:

  1. Opening IE8
  2. Clicking the emulate IE7 button (which is not that great of an IE7 emulator)
  3. Close IE8
  4. Open IE8 back up.
  5. Verify that the emulate IE7 button is checked
  6. Navigate to the Website in question
  7. Check to see if the problems are gone.
  8. Click the emulate IE7 button
  9. Close IE8
  10. Open IE8
  11. Verify that the emulate IE7 button is not checked
  12. Navigate to the Website in question
  13. Check to see if the problems are there again

In as little as 13 easy steps you can be certain that IE8 sucks and is the cause of your Websites not displaying correctly.

I know Microsoft only posts 6 steps but if you read carefully they cram two, three or four in one line to make it seem as 6 when it is really 13.

But, that’s ok. The steps are simple enough and at least they offer us a way to test in two of their browsers with out the need of different computers or the Multiple IE program. The problem is the solution they give for this issue: “To resolve these issues, Web site owners and administrators can add a meta-tag that tells Internet Explorer 8 to display an entire site or a specific page like Internet Explorer 7.” In other words: “Call your Web Developer and ask for a quote for adding a Meta Tag to all the pages in your Website. Please remember that your Web Developer may be going insane with several similar requests by all his clients who are experiencing the same problem.”

Some may say that I shouldn’t be complaining since this may result in more money thrown my way just to add a simple meta tag in a bunch of pages. Although I won’t argue that some more money may come my way, I already made clear the scenario most likely to happen on this post: More on the Meta Nightmare. So you don’t have to click on the link I’ll summarize it here for you: Some clients might understand and be ok with paying to get their websites updated for IE8 although they might not understand why a newer browser doesn’t work with their current website. Others, may need a little bit more time (time = money) for us to explain why this needs to happen and why they need to pay us and may decide to do it, keep the website as it is or, the one I’m scared about, go somewhere else thinking that their web developer doesn’t know what he’s doing since Microsoft is a Multi Billion dollar company and they must know what they are doing.

But let’s end the post in an optimistic mode. If this happens, if I loose a client because of this meta tag I’m pretty sure I could sue Microsoft for damages and then a lot of money may be thrown my way. Maybe I should revise my posts and praise the meta tag. Who knows, right?

I Wouldn’t Go As Far As Shooting, But He Makes A Point

I think I finally found a Website that expresses as much hatred for Microsoft and their IE browsers as we do here at Stupid IE.

Andrew at Floor44.co.uk have written a very interesting post giving even more reasons to shot kill throw pies in the faces of all Microsoft developers for the rest of their existence.

In the post, Andrew has an image of the compatibility table for CSS3 and folks, let me tell you something: It i not looking good. I really don’t get all the hype of some people about IE8 when it is actually worse, at least as far as css selectors go, than IE7. I mean, and I said this more than twice before, shouldn’t an update or a new version be better than the previous one?

Oh Microsoft, really I don’t condone shooting people or killing them by any other means. But seriously Microsoft, you are pushing a lot of people. Maybe is just time to sue.

Update on IE7 Emulate button

Update: It still doesn’t work correctly so god knows what we are going to expect with IE8 multi running mode that is supposed to not break websites that where previously working with IE7.

Since I hadn’t tested this myself I couldn’t assure the button was not working correctly. But today I ran into this post which has a nice screen shot of the problem. You can see for yourself how the IE7 emulate button is pressed.

IE8 Is Not Compatible with Web Based Email Clients

Haven’t tested this one since I am working mostly on a mac and I don’t wan’t to screw up my VMWare installation with the crappy IE8 Beta, but apparently IE8 is breaking more than maps and now web based email clients have been added to it.

IE8 + CSS = FAIL

This post is self explanatory. A couple of tests which IE8 fails.

http://www.builderau.com.au/program/css/soa/Comparison-of-CSS-compatibility-on-IE-Firefox-Safari-and-Opera-/0,339028392,339287800,00.htm

Yes I know, it is only a Beta, but so far is not looking good.

How Good Is The Emulate IE7 Button?

Well, apparently is not that good. According to Mandown IE8 still breaks some mapping websites even when the emulate IE7 button is on.

I haven’t tested this myself, but if it’s true, then we can expect the IE8 will break websites that are already working on IE7 even if we, as developers, tell it to render it as IE7.

Once more, Thanks Microsoft for making our lives so wonderful.

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